New owner of a 1996 Seadoo sp

[rougue]

Hi I am new to the forum. I just purchased a 1996 Seadoo sp from a friend. He had it serviced every year but only ran it a few times annually. I drained all of the gas, added high test gas and it started perfetly in the drive way. When I got it in the water it started up with out issues but it bogged down after a few minutes and eventually would not start again (I am assuming I flooded it). Does anyone have any suggestions of what it could be? I have not changed the plugs which I will be doing this week.

Thanks,

 

[LouDoo]

Does the ski have grey tempo fuel lines, if so they need to be changed, carbs. cleaned or rebuild, clean fuel selector valve, clean water seperator/fuel filter. Here's a thread on the subject.

Also do you know what the compression is?

http://www.seadooforum.com/showthre...el-Delivery-Problems-low-revs-bogging-surging

Lou

 

[rougue]

Thanks LouDoo. The ski does have the grey tempo fuel lines. I will check the compression this weekend. I have a few more quesitons. I tried to start the ski last night and now it will not start. Any ideas why it will not start? Before I put it in the water it started instantly every time. Do you think it is still flooded? How long should I hold the starter down to start the ski? Will it damage the starter if I hold it in more that 10 seconds?

Thanks again,

 

[NCSteve]

Does it have fuel? Ha dto ask. I would bet your filter screen in the carb is clogged. As Lou stated the selector switch will also probably be gummed up. No fuel = no start. There is also a filter under the front beind the compartment basket and a screen in the tank sending unit.If you pull the air filter housing off and pour a little premix fuel in the carb and it fires, you can get a good read if it is a fuel issue

 

[rougue]

Ok so due to time constraints I took my ski to a local shop. He said that the compression was good and he clean the carb, put in new motor mounts but did not change the grey fuel lines. I took the ski home it started perfectly in the drive way. Then I took it out for a spin yesterday and it started fine and ran great for about 30 minutes. I did a regular turn and it stalled out and would not start again. I called the local shop this morning and he said that he thought that it was probably something simple and would take another look at it.

I am taking the ski back to him tomorrow but I would love to get some input from you guys. Any ideas what it is? He said he checked the fuel selector switch and it seemed to be turning fine.

Thanks,

 

[LouDoo]

If he cleaned the carb. and didn't change the fuel line, in my opinion he's not much of a mechanic. The fuel lines are a known problem and they need to be changed.

Lou

 

[rougue]

That is what I thought you would say. After the fuel lines are changed will the carb need to be clean again?

Thanks,

 

[rougue]

Lou, so the ski sat for a few days and I took it back to the mechanic becuase I paid him $500 so I expected it to work. He took it back and it started immediately. He said he didnt think it was a fuel issue, potentially a intermitant spark issue. What is your opinion?

Thanks,

 

[bell99man]

I know you're asking Lou, (sorry Lou, don't mean to step on any toes) but this "mechanic" is pulling your chain. A 96 with grey lines is a guaranteed repeat business money maker for the shop. The lines cost about $30 bucks in parts to replace. They rot over time and the byproduct of the breakdown is this gummy green sludge. In your fuel lines at every connection is a big pile of this crap. With every use, some of it migrates towards your carb screens. Yours are clogged up again. And the restricted fuel flow causes a lean condition in the piston. When you burn any type of fuel with an overabundance of oxygen, the combustion temps get very high. It will start to melt the rings or pit the piston surface and then the $30 will turn into a $1000 pain in the but. You may have another problem, but this one is critical and will earn the shop the most money. Do this first, reclean the carb and add an in-line fuel filter like Fram's G2. Then troubleshoot the next problem. Look in the tech section of this forum for fuel related guides. This site has covered this many times over and saved my wallet and skis. Good luck man.

Kevin

 

[LouDoo]

Kevin,

That's O.K., you didn't step on anyone's toes. And you explained the problem perfectly, probably better than I could.

Lou

 

[bell99man]

Thanks Lou. I guess I got pissed at the shop guy for not doing something so basic. Hopefully he will give that mechanic an ear full.