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    Default I'm a happy camper!!!

    Just got home from a very well spend couple of hours at the local JetSki shop. Talked a good long while with a mechanic and after all the going back and forth, I walked away with my new purchases.

    First off, I found the choke cable frayed this morning when I inspected it. It was always so no tampering, just never looked at it closely before. Anyway, the combined total for a new cable and bracket was a lot more than a primer kit, so I just bought the primer. Next, after a fruitless search for an airbox top and airtube, he suggested an aoluminum stand alone filter/flame arrestor for only $40. The airbox, tube and everything else would have cost close to $100, so a great savings there as well. The battery will ship out tomorrow and I got a safety lanyard and ignition cap today as well, so all I have to do now is install this stuff and when the battery gets here, install that, then it's off I go.

    I do have one question though. What is the consensus here about UltraCopper? I have used it on most of my land based rebuilds and it works great. It is high temp as swell so I can't see a problem using it unless you guys have had different experiences with it.

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    Default Ultracopper

    Never heard of it. What is it and what does it do?

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    Ultra-Copper is made by Permatex, and is a high heat, high strength reinforced gasket sealant. I have used it for almost 15 years now with no failures that I know of. I just wanted to know if anyone here has heard of or used it in Marine applications like a Sea Doo. I have rebuilt a couple of inboards using it but not a 2 stroke.

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    Where do you want to use the gasket sealant? I have used it for years too, but not too many applications available in a seadoo. Most of the gaskets from sea doo are set just like they are without using any other sealant.
    Also, why are you having a battery shipped out? most battery stores stock the battery you need, and would be cheaper than a seadoo battery. That's just my opinion and experience.
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    I will be pulling the carb to install the primer nozzle and the carb base gasket is dry. I was told it didn't neccesarily need sealant but I am not one to take chances.

    As far as the battery, I got this one for $25 shipped, just needs acid added, and I can get that local here for only $5. The local store has the battery that fits this for $40.00 plus tax. A savings of over $10. Being on disability every cent helps, lolol. You tend to look for deals like this. My new fuel pump will cost me $25 shipped from the guy on Ebay, where it is $60 from the dealer.

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    Sounds like a good deal on the battery. Just be sure it comes with a warranty that could be used at a local store if it needs replacement. Sometimes it isn't about price, but quality and warranty if something goes wrong. It could be costly to send back (if it has acid in it) to the MFG. Good deal on E-bay. I buy things there often and I haven't been burnt yet. It sounds like you on the right track. If the gasket rips when you pull the carb, replace it instead of using gasket sealant. They are cheap and it will be easier to remove later if you need to.

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    The battery is an exide, so local shops will warranty it with no prob.

    I never take a chance with old gaskets, they always get replaced when I work on something. That way I know for sure how old they are and where they come from. I'm anal that way, lolol.

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    Smile Don't waste sealant on new gaskets...

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    The battery is an exide, so local shops will warranty it with no prob.

    I never take a chance with old gaskets, they always get replaced when I work on something. :
    Ok...than why are you using the gasket sealant? If the gaskets are new, besure the surface is clean, slap them on and move on to the next repair...I have never had problems with new gaskets, only when I need to re-use them and it's 10:00 pm on a saturday nite, and I'm doo ing it the next day..lol ,than sealant is my ace in the hole so to speak.

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    I use a thin skin of Ultra-Copper for the added peace of mind, pretty much. I have never had a leak after I started using it, where before I sometimes got weepers. It might not be much loss of oil but it is still a leak and that leak attracts dirt and grime. I don't like cleaning so every little bit helps, lolol.

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    Default Good stuff!

    I use it too. But I only use it on "garlock" type gaskets. Never use it on head or carb gaskets. It's also good if you have a gouge in a machined surface. But like Karl said, all the seadoo parts are designed to hold as they are without any extra sealant. Just use the proper torque and you should be fine!.......
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    Well, I pulled the Carb today to install the priming nozzle and plug, and to mount up the new air filter. Everything went great, the nozzle and plug went in without a hitch and the airfilter mounted up smooth as cream.

    I found out that a previous owner seems to have done some carb work because the inside of the intake manifold had a huge glob of sealant all around the base gasket. Once I was able to coax the gasket and sealant out if the manifold, I found out why the gasket was sealed. I don't know if he dropped the manifold, or what, but there are several dimples in the mating surface of the Carb. I took my metal shaver and removed the hills and now have an almost perfectly flat surface to work with. Just in case, I added a microthin layer of Ultra-Copper with a putty knife to fill in the few valleys left behind. I ran my straight edge over it and no imperfections left. Now, all I need is a magnet to retrieve the nuts that fell under the engine mounting plate, lolol. I tried fitting my finger inder it to get them back but couldn't quite reach them. There is always tomorrow. If it is warm enough, that is. It was freakishly cold today here, where it doesn't usually freeze standing water, but there it was, frozen puddles. Let's see how the next day or three fare before I go out to install the newly refurbished carb.

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    Now, that's a perfect example of when to use ultra copper. I personally use that on most of my engine rebuilds (car or truck) because once I put something together, I hate to end up taking it apart again because of a leak. And you can bet the water pump gets a little of it!.....I also use the high temp RTV........good luck.
    I'm rebuilding my pto carb now. I'm wanting to get ready for spring as much as everyone else!............unlike KustomKarl who has this really nice, brand new hot rod that will throw your head out the back on take-off!........I hope my jealously doesn't show too much!.......

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    Talking Thread Hijack...oops!

    Jeff that is the best place to use that ultra copper gasket sealer. Oh yea your jealousy is showing way too much Louis... My new lift post are going to be done next week and my FREE cover from the dealer came in today($650.00 value)...with non-pooling poles and the ratchet in the rear... Now I can put the boat on the lift with out the feeling of birds pooping on it during my working day...Of course I'll post new pics this weekend...or play hookie from work Friday...hhmmm Jealous now? oops sorry to hi jack the thread... I couldn't refuse.

    Again good job Jeff...now back to the Ultra copper sealant.

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    well, it was too damn cold and wet again today so it will have to wait to reinstall the Carb. The other question I should have thought to ask is should I get another gasket for it since the throttle bracket in mounted under the Carb? There was no gasket under the bracket plate but a lot of sealant all over the place.

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    Does the manual show a gasket there? I think it does get a gasket, but I would check the manual to be sure.

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    If I'm understanding what your talking about, there are 4 screws, 2 of which hold that bracket. It's mounted to the pump plate assy. There shouldn't be a gasket there.

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    No, there is just the two studs the carb mounts to on the intake manifold. The throttle cable bracket slips on the studs and then the barb is put on top and held down by the nuts. There is nowhere else for the throttle cable bracket to mount to.

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    I think it goes on the studs after you mount the carb. than the nuts if I'm not mistaken

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    Sorry.....I was thinking of something else......I'll pipe down on this one. I'm sure there are some members with some good advice here!....

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    Louis, you hitting the chocolate milk again?

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    Actually Karl, that is not the case at all. It goes on before the Carb, no question about it. It is a solid plate, ovoid in shape, with three holes, the center larger hole is exactly the diameter of the barrel of the carb and intake manifold bore, and two smaller holes opposite each other that go over the studs. I will clean the surfaces as best I can, Ultra-Copper if need be, and purchase a second gasket to go between the manifold and the bracket plate. The first gasket is already affixed to the bottom of the carb awaiting installation.

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    And now I come to find that the Carb I have is from a later model than I thought, so the pump I bid on in Ebay isn't going to do me any good, lolol. It looks like I don't need to redo the entire fuel line system so I can get on the water that much faster. I can't wait for the battery to get here!!!!!!! Two or three days after I get the battery, I will be on the water.

    Can my excitement get any higher?

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    I hope she goes well for ya Dusthawk
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    I am so Damn funny!!! I just came up with my Signature and I can't stop smiling. I think ya'll will like it, if someone else has it, let me know and I'll remove it. I don't mind plagiarizing Mountain Dew, but I won't walk on someones toes here, LMAO.

    By the time I get my Doo running and in the water, I will have new batteries for my camera, rechargable ones, lol. Her maiden voyage will be captured for posterity. I'll need some help in downloading it to YouTube. If anyone can advise me, please PM me.

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    I might be interseted in the fuel pump you have in hand... What specific model is off again? Do you know the Seadoo Part Number also, so I can determind if it will work. A picture would be great too. Send me a pic in a pm... Thanks.
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